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Frustrations with the Grand College of Rites

If you are a member of the Grand College of Rites, you may have some frustration with a seemingly absent recorder and other management. I encourage you to hang in there. I received a communication from someone in the organization explaining the situation. He forwarded me a note from the Grand Chancellor that explains everything.

This is a great organization to be part of. Don’t give up on them. They are just having some transitional problems at the moment and likely these will be cleared up before long. The good side is that there is an opportunity for some brother to become more involved if he wants a good-sized project. I considered throwing my hat in the ring but decided I have enough on my plate for now.

From the Most Illustrious Grand Chancellor:

Our current Grand Recorder has taken a new job which causes him to be out of town most of the time. As a result, we have a large number of members wondering why they aren’t receiving their mailings, or responses to their inquiries. You are not alone.

Over the past few months, we have been searching for a new Grand Recorder, but it isn’t an easy task to find an interested Mason who is willing to drive a U-Haul trailer to Illinois, pack up approximately five dozen boxes of back issues and other records, drive them back to their hometown, and take on the task of becoming the Grand Recorder of the Grand College of Rites.

Unfortunately, we are not an organization that has a brick and mortar office somewhere, and we cannot pay a staff of two or three a full-time salary. That would be great, but we just don’t have the numbers. As a result, we have to rely on one single volunteer who is compensated as much as we can afford.

On the upside, we have two or three applicants for the job, and we hope to have a final decision prior to our Annual Convocation.

All I can do at this point is ask for your continued patience.


Pierre G. “Pete” Normand, Jr.
Grand Chancellor
Grand College of Rites

  • Steven says:

    I submitted a petition a while ago as I am extremely interested in the symbolism of long dead rites.

    I received the same reply and am hoping that my petition comes out of limbo soon.

    November 10, 2013 at 3:30 pm
    • Carl says:

      Hi Bro. Steven. Have patience. I am sure things will turn around soon. They do interesting work and I am sure you will be pleased with what you learn!

      November 10, 2013 at 7:59 pm
  • Bro. Michael S. Doxsee says:

    Hey brother what is Pierre G. “Pete” Normand, Jr. email, I live the next state over and not to far away, I would be more than glad to help them out, as I have a petition I am ready to send in. Please feel free to send me an email


    Michael S. Doxsee
    Highland Lodge 762
    Fort Wayne IN

    January 7, 2014 at 1:03 pm
    • Carl says:

      Bro. Stimpert is still listed as the grand registrar. I will be in touch with the grand biggie biggies and point them to you. Thanks for offering to help out!

      January 12, 2014 at 8:04 pm
  • Steven says:

    Still haven’t heard anything. I know convocation is in February. I still have my petition and check floating out there. Should I expect it to be looked at by the end of Feb?

    January 12, 2014 at 7:46 pm
    • Carl says:

      Hi Bro. Steven. I also have not heard from them in some time. I am guessing they still do not have a grand recorder who is to speed. Please have patience. I will needle them at the Masonic Week meeting and see what the scoop is.

      January 12, 2014 at 8:02 pm
  • Brandon Waleszonia says:

    Bro. Weaver, Have you heard anything else? I joined lasted year and have not received one thing from them. Take care Brother.

    February 10, 2014 at 4:02 pm
    • Carl says:

      Hi Bro. Waleszonia. I have not heard anything back. I just left a comment on the Facebook page but I do not expect to get a reply, since it is Masonic Week this week and probably people are in transit. I recommend giving them some time. They are going through some troubles due to the Grand Recorder’s situation. I have faith that these problems will be worked out this year.

      Unfortunately, I have a conflicting meeting on Saturday morning so I will not be able to go to their once-per-year meeting to harass them. I will be there all day Wednesday though, and hope to meet up with someone from the GCR to bend his ear a bit.

      February 10, 2014 at 4:27 pm
  • roger cline says:

    i had ALOT of trouble with the old recoder! Wood NEVER SEND Anything to me.I GOT A COMPLETE RUN AROUND From Mr.stimpert,we had 2 Heated conversations,about something as simple As 2 PINS. I WAS READY TO THROW IN THE TOWEL,Until i got the GOOD NEWS THAT HE WAS GONE!! I will pay my 2014 dues& and THEN SEE HOW every thing works out! This is 1 member YOU ALMOST LOST!!!!!

    April 10, 2014 at 10:38 pm
    • Carl says:

      Hi Bro. Cline. I am glad you did not throw in the towel and I hope you will be a member for many years.

      I do not know Bro. Stimpert’s personal situation but when I joined he was doing a fine job and I understand his time was lessened due to work or other circumstances. He was a great servant to the organization but from time to time all of our cable tows get shortened, often due to reasons beyond our control.

      April 10, 2014 at 10:54 pm
      • roger cline says:

        thank you brother carl,I love the GCR!!i enjoy the book,i was a VERY active mason in the York Rite & Shrine,kerbela temple, but now im disabled with Rhumitiod Arthrities and really miss it very much!!.Now with this major change in the GCR,i will get NEW MEMBERS FOR THE GCR.not braggging i do know allot of brothers from other states.thank you & please keep in touch.

        April 15, 2014 at 9:32 am
        • Carl says:

          Hi Bro. Roger. Thanks for hanging in there with the GCR and for your service in the Craft. Even when we can’t be with our brothers in person, it is good to have correspondence organizations like the GCR or SCRL to help bring us more light.

          April 15, 2014 at 4:30 pm
          • roger cline says:

            what is SCRL? also i think i have found a new FRIEND!!Thank you brother carl!

            April 15, 2014 at 7:52 pm
          • Carl says:

            Southern California Research Lodge:

            A friend and a brother!

            April 15, 2014 at 10:46 pm

    May I ask what is the current state of things? I notice today there is no longer a website under the domain name.

    I have wished to join but understand the current situation. I am available to assist in some way with admin matters (have 20+ years as a secretary and social media manager), but must first be accepted into membership before I can realistically offer to assist.

    I can be reached at 412-353-9075 or by email.

    Br. Raymond Sean Walters
    PO Box 635
    Weirton, WV 26062

    The Phylaxis Society (Fellow)
    The Philalethes Society
    Scottish Rite Research Society
    The Masonic Society
    Ohio Lodge of Research

    September 2, 2014 at 3:31 pm
    • Carl says:

      Bro. Walters, I think they had some issues with their site but it is back online now. If you still can’t see it, maybe try tomorrow.


      September 2, 2014 at 8:13 pm
  • Gerald says:

    Hi all;

    I have just seen this thread wanted to reach out whomever might still be following with interest.

    The Grand College of Rites has been back on track since April 2014.

    Please contact me directly with questions, comments, concerns.

    Gerald Klein
    Grand Registrar


    December 30, 2016 at 5:28 pm

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